Tuesday, September 16, 2014

Annotated Nedbase 1970 - 1975

Updated  08-01-17




Ned's new music CD, "Cat Dreams", is now available at the store on his website Spiritcats.com.  You can read read more about his first public music in a few decades under the music link on the home page, or go directly to the Spiritcats store.  Cat Dreams t- shirts are also available!

Ned's official website Spiritcats.com has several galleries of his photography and art, a collection of his writings on individual creativity, art, pictures and being a picture, nudes and erotica, the natural history of electronic media world presence, as well as extensive content about his music past and present, his new CD "Cat Dreams", and about "Seastones" composition and the upcoming new two CD release of "Seastones". 

Others have created a Facebook site about Ned's website:  Ned Lagin's Spiritcats  https://facebook.com/nedlaginspiritcats/   


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Below are listed the performances, rehearsals, and recording sessions where Ned Lagin is known to have performed with the Grateful Dead, or with Phil Lesh, Jerry Garcia, and others.  These occurred in the years between 1970 to 1975.  This list is thought to be accurate but remains incomplete.

Ned has reviewed the list and added notes.  Since the interview that was broadcast on February 3, 2001 (transcript at http://www.gdhour.com/transcripts/lagin.010203.html ) and his published interviews with David Gans ("Conversations with the Dead") in August, 2001, no other interviews have been published.  He has received and listened to recordings of many but not all relevant performances, performances which he had not heard at the time of the interviews (11-05-70, 11-08-70, 11-21-70, 02-18-71, 04-8-71, and other concert recordings).  Some complete shows (02-18-71, 04-8-71) which he had played, and which he only identified minimally or partially in the Gans interview as the performances and/or only songs he thought remarkable are more fully documented here.  Where he did not remember, or was not sure about shows or other events, he qualified or asked that those listings be eliminated.

"Seastones" recording, mixing, mastering, and practice sessions for the period 1970-1975 are mostly undocumented and further research is needed.  Most of the "Seastones" sessions and electronic jams at Mickey Hart's ranch in the summers of 1970, 1971, 1972, and 1973 were recorded.  These are presumed to be lost.

Recordings of Grateful Dead performances were graciously supplied to Ned from David Gans, Ihor Slabicky, Noah Weiner, Michael Parrish, and David Finney.

An in-depth biography is available at the "Ned Lagin" entry in Wikipedia ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ned_Lagin ).


I-)  ihor



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1970 


05-xx-70 - The Grateful Dead visit Ned Lagin at his dorm room at MIT in Cambridge, MA.  Ned plays piano and plays a four-hand piano jam with Ron "Pig Pen" McKernan; Jerry Garcia, Phil Lesh, and Mickey Hart are present.

05-xx-70 - Jerry, Phil, and Mickey attend a concert of 8-track electronic music composed and performed by Ned at the MIT Chapel, Cambridge, MA.

MIT Chapel (photo by Melvin Backstrom)


Summer, 1970  - numerous jams throughout the summer, including at Mickey Hart's ranch, the Slide Ranch, and some studio rehearsals; members of the Dead, Jefferson Airplane, Crosby Stills and Nash, Quicksilver Messenger Service, and New Riders of the Purple Sage.

Two business cards from Ned.  The telephone numbers are no longer affiliated with the Grateful Dead.


Jerry (electric, acoustic, and pedal steel guitar) and Ned (piano) play together alone on multiple occasions at Jerry Garcia's house and at Mickey's.  Jerry teaches Ned, through singing and playing, a number of Grateful Dead tunes including new ones for the "American Beauty" album.  Ned and Jerry jam on "Dark Star", on one and two chord pieces, on sound textures, and play and improvise on pop and jazz songs, using Ned's fake books (Ned on piano, Jerry on acoustic, electric, and pedal steel guitars).  Jerry refers Ned to the piano playing of Floyd Cramer, and to bluegrass players.  Ned shows Jerry (and they work through) transcriptions (Charlie Parker, Dizzy Gillespie, John Coltrane, Thelonius Monk, Dave Brubeck, Bill Evans, and others), scores by Mahler, Copland, Ives, Gershwin, Ravel, Debussy, Webern, and Pendereki (and others), his Berklee School of Music notes on reharmonization, as well as his research on Renaissance music (Obrecht, Okeghem), all of which he also shares with Phil.  Ned plays Bill Evans' "Blue in Green" and "Peace Piece" on piano for Jerry.  These musical interchanges between Ned, Jerry, and including Phil and Mickey also occur during the summers of 1971-1973.

David Crosby and Ned play together (acoustic guitar, piano) at David's house ("The Lee Shore" and other tunes).  David Crosby plays "Songs of the Humpback Whale", Roger Payne's LP of whale songs, for Ned and Phil.

Ned records his first 16-track music at Mickey Hart's studio - a composition of multiple over-layered tracks of solo piano, inspired by the Bill Evans album "Conversations With Myself".  He also starts early "Seastones" 16-track recording.

08-xx-70 - "American Beauty" sessions in August and September 1970 at the Wally Heider Studio in San Francisco.  Ned plays piano on early takes of several songs.  The only piano track of his that is used on the album is the acoustic piano on "Candyman".  If the undated outtake of "Candyman" listed below can be dated to between June and September, 1970, then it is Ned playing the acoustic piano.  http://archive.org/download/gd1971-02-01.sbd.Studio.Rehearsal.120486.flac16/13.mp3 

xx-xx-70 - Ned played acoustic piano on some rehearsal sessions for David Crosby's solo album "If I Could Only Remember My Name".

Fall, 1970 - Ned returns to MIT.

11-05-70 - Grateful Dead at the Capitol Theater, Port Chester, NY (Thursday) - This concert is the first time that Ned plays on stage with the Grateful Dead:  "The Other One" > "Dark Star" > "St. Stephen".  Ned describes it:  "The "Dark Star" was a very abstract feedback-oriented one early on, then beautiful.  It was very much more "Seastones"-esque than other "Dark Stars", characteristic of some of the earlier summer jamming."  https://archive.org/details/gd70-11-05.aud.warner.17182.sbeok.shnf 

11-08-70 - Grateful Dead at the Capitol Theater, Port Chester, NY - Ned sat in on "Dark Star" > "The Main Ten" jam > "Dancing in the Streets".  https://archive.org/details/gd1970-11-08.aud.weiner.28609.sbeok.shnf 

11-21-70 - Grateful Dead at the Sargent Gym, Boston University, Boston, MA - This was Ned's first complete concert with the Grateful Dead.  Ned played a beige original Wurlitzer electric piano that was borrowed.  Friends in the audience yelled "Hey, Ned!" and "Grateful Ned!" to his embarrassment.  Partial set list - other songs not remembered or recorded:  "Casey Jones", "Candyman", "Mama Tried", "Easy Wind", "Good Loving", "Dancing In The Street", "St. Stephen", "Cryptical Envelopment" > "Drums" > "The Other One" > "Cryptical Envelopment" > "Cosmic Charlie", and "Uncle John's Band".  https://archive.org/details/gd70-11-21.sbd.hanno.14858.sbeok.shnf 
 
Bill, Mickey, Pigpen, Ned, Bob, Phil, and Jerry at Boston University on November 21, 1970 (photo by Jeff Albertson)
 

Jerry, Phil, Bill, Mickey, Ned, Bob, and Pigpen at Boston University on November 21, 1970 (photo by Jeff Albertson)
 

Note from Ned:  In 1970 / 1971, because of PA input limitations and/or whoever was mixing, it is hard for him to be heard.  But there was no conscious effort to be absent, and not recorded.  There was no reason not to record him if there were available mix channels, and he had no reason not to be recorded.  Until the 1974 tours when Jerry always wanted him on his side of the stage, there was no typical setup for the times he played (Pigpen's organ or his own keyboards).  If Ned didn't have monitor speakers close so he could tell how loud he was in the mix, he was very careful, playing more diminutively until he found his bearings out of respect for the spirit of the music, the band, and the show.

Note from Ned:  He was sensitive to when earlier TC (Tom Constanten) joined the band and unfortunately affected Pigpen's role.  So Ned wanted always to leave space for Pigpen, who generously gave musical space for Ned.  And as the sixth player in the mix he held back, blending in and not standing out, not cluttering but helping to shape and energize.

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1971 

02-18-71 - Grateful Dead at the Capitol Theater, Port Chester, NY - Ned plays for the entire concert.  He played sparsely or sat out on a very few tunes because the band seemed not in tune (with his keys), some tunes did not need his keyboard (it was by his own choice), and also he wanted to leave space for Pigpen.  In earlier discussions, Ned talked only minimally about his playing on 02-18-71, mentioning only a few of the tunes he really liked and remembered without having a set list or recording.

Ned plays clavichord and Farfisa organ, with Uni-Vibe (Jerry loan) and Cry Baby wah-wah (Jerry gift) pedals; Ned played through two of Jerry's spare Fender Twin Reverb amps.  These had the original tie-dyed speaker covers and were mic'd but because of feedback there was a direct box transformer line output.  Ned was surrounded (virtually buried) in baffling, equipment cases, and padding by Ramrod (and Jerry) to tame feedback problems from having to mic and amplify the very quiet clavichord.

Especially notable is "Dark Star" > "Wharf Rat" > "Dark Star" > "Beautiful Jam" > "Dark Star" > "Me and My Uncle".  https://archive.org/details/gd1971-02-18.sbd.miller.111793.flac16  Ned did not know until the David Gans interview in 2001 that later this was called "Beautiful Jam".  The "Beautiful Jam" is included in the "So Many Roads (1965-1995)" box set on disc two, track 2.

This is the first time that the Grateful Dead performed "Bertha", "Wharf Rat", "Johnny B. Goode", and "Playing in the Band".  The afternoon of the concert, back stage during set up, Jerry told Ned he had new songs they had not played before.  First he talked through "Bertha".  Then "Wharf Rat", which he played for Ned quietly on guitar and singing, showing him the changes (chords) and vocal so he could play it that evening coming out of "Dark Star".  A little later, Phil came up to him, told him about "Wharf Rat", and talked him through it, but with no instruments.  He didn't know Jerry had already done it, but Ned was happy to have more info.  Bob asked Ned to sit back for the first part of "Playing in the Band" and the vocals until he got it.

Jerry sometimes fedback through the sounding board and brass strings of Ned's clavichord as did Ned himself; the feedback character comes from the sweetness of the brass clavichord strings and acoustic wood soundboard.

Set 1: Bertha, Truckin', It Hurts Me Too, Loser, Greatest Story Ever Told > Johnny B. Goode, Mama Tried, Hard To Handle, Dark Star > Wharf Rat > Dark Star > Me & My Uncle

Set 2: Lucky Lager Dance Time, Casey Jones, Playing in the Band, Me, Candyman, Big Boss Man, Sugar Magnolia, St. Stephen > Not Fade Away > Going Down the Road Feeling Bad > Not Fade Away > Uncle John's Band  https://archive.org/details/gd1971-02-18.sbd.miller.111793.flac16 or http://www.archive.org/details/gd1971-02-18.sbd.cantor-crouch-diebert-gmb.85478.sbeok.flac16 

02-xx-71 - Capitol Theater, Port Chester, NY - Two acoustic duo sessions during the day(s) with Jerry on acoustic guitar and Ned on clavichord.  These were recorded on four-track tape by Bob Matthews and Betty Cantor and are either now lost, in the Grateful Dead archive(s), or with other Jerry Garcia tapes.  The sessions included some musical elements from the first night's performance.

04-07-71 - Grateful Dead at the Boston Music Hall, Boston, MA - being researched.  http://www.archive.org/details/gd1971-04-07.sbd.cantor.gmb.96225.flac16 and the post- drums "jam" http://www.archive.org/download/gd1971-04-07.sbd.cantor.gmb.96225.flac16/gd1971-04-07d2t05_vbr.mp3 

04-08-71 - Grateful Dead at the Boston Music Hall, Boston, MA - Ned plays the entire concert.  Once again, on a few tunes he played minimally or sat out because the band seemed not in tune with his piano, some tunes did not need his keyboard (his own choice), and also he wanted to leave space for Pigpen.  Ned played a new Wurlitzer (black) electric piano, with a Cry Baby wah-wah (an earlier Jerry gift), a Uni-Vibe (Jerry's), and a Tonebender (early distortion box), through two of Jerry's spare Fender Twin Reverb amps with original tie-dyed speaker covers for stage monitors, and there was a direct box transformer line output.  Ned's piano's position changed between the first set and the second, and again during the second set (the thought was to do a sequence of acoustic tunes starting with "Cumberland Blues" but that was abandoned after the band was reminded about the amount of playing time remaining before the Boston City curfew took effect.  https://archive.org/details/gd1971-04-08.sbd.cantor.gmb.96627.flac16 or http://www.archive.org/details/gd1971-04-08.sbd.unknown.14397.shnf 

As with 02-18-71 in earlier discussions, Ned had also talked only minimally about his playing on 04-08-71 - "it was a very high night for all - on stage and off" - and mentioning only a few of the tunes he really liked and remembered playing.  Earlier discussions may have confused this night with another concert (and another "Dark Star") in Boston, 09-16-72, when he joined the band on stage for only "Dark Star" > "Brokedown Palace".

Set 1 - Truckin', Bertha, Next Time You See Me, Playing in the Band, Loser, Beat It On Down The Line, I Second That Emotion, Sugar Magnolia, China Cat Sunflower > I Know You Rider, Casey Jones

During the break Jerry asks Ned what he would like to play - he asks for "Alligator", "The Eleven", and "Dark Star".  They do "Dark Star".

Set 2 - Dark Star > St. Stephen > Not Fade Away > Going Down the Road Feeling Bad > Jam > Not Fade Away, Sing Me Back Home, Cumberland Blues, Greatest Story Ever Told > Johnny B. Goode, Good Lovin' > Drums > Good Lovin'.

xx-xx-71 - During the summer of 1971, recording sessions continue on "Seastones with Jerry, Phil, Spencer Dryden, Mickey, David Crosby, and Grace Slick.

Jerry teaches Ned more tunes; they jam alone at Mickey's and Jerry's.  David Crosby and Ned play together (acoustic guitar, piano) at David's house.

xx-xx-71 - During the summer, Ned plays in a number of jam sessions with Jerry, Phil, Mickey, Bob, Billy, David Crosby, John Cipollina, members of the New Riders of the Purple Sage, Spencer Dryden, and Barry Melton, among others.

08-14-71 - Grateful Dead at the Berkeley Community Theatre, Berkeley, CA - During Set II, Ned plays on "Truckin'" > "Drums" > "The Other One", "Me and Bobby McGee", "Happy Birthday" for David Crosby, and the two encores: "Johnny B. Goode" and "Uncle John's Band".  https://archive.org/details/gd1971-08-14.sbd.130871.MrBill.flac16 

08-15-71 - Grateful Dead at the Berkeley Community Theatre, Berkeley, CA - During Set II, Ned plays on "Truckin'" > "Drums" > "The Other One" > "Me and My Uncle" > "The Other One" > "Wharf Rat".  https://archive.org/details/gd1971-08-15.sbd.130890.MrBill.flac16 

08-21-71 - Mickey's Barn Studio, Novato, CA - This was a local radio broadcast designated and promoted as "A Day In The Country" that took place at Mickey Hart's ranch barn.  Musicians from several bands played most of the day together in varying configurations.  These included members of the Grateful Dead, Jefferson Airplane, Quicksilver Messenger Service, David Crosby, Barry Melton, the New Riders of the Purple Sage, many others, and Ned.
 
 According to Ned:  "While I had already met several of those in attendance, jammed with some, and already worked on "Seastones" with some (and played baseball with some), I got to see and meet many others from the Bay Area, musicians and families.  Very high day for everyone.  One of the very memorable days."

There are two known recordings: Ned's personal copy 
(available on Ned's website Spiritcats.com, navigating to the MUSIC page, and then scrolling down to the DOWNLOADS section, where there is a link to the music), and an audience recording ( https://archive.org/details/gd71-08-21.hartjam.aud.17179.sbeok.shnf ).
 

Tape box for "A Day In The Country"



The tape box of Ned's recording lists:  "Stokes, Garcia, Lagin, Hart, Lesh, Crosby, Cippolina, Freiberg" and recording information.  It contains "The Other One Jam" > "The Wall Song", "Jam", "Blooz", and "R&R Jam".

The audience recording contains "Jam #1", "Wall Song" > "Jam" > "Wall Song", "Jam #2", "Noodle Part 1", "Noodle Part 2", "Jam #3", "Jam #4", "Tuning Jam #1", "Ghost Riders In The Sky Jam", "Winin' Boy Blues", "Tuning Jam #2", and "Tore Down".

According to Ned:  "Phil had all the tapes, and we listened to all the recordings in his living room.  Phil made reel-to-reel and cassette copies for himself and for me. My tape box labeling was written by Phil.  Phil listed on the tape box only a few of the musicians before tiring and "quitting" the labeling process." 

"I played piano or organ throughout the day."  From memory, Ned lists the following musicians:  "Jerry Garcia, Phil Lesh, Bob Weir, Mickey Hart, David Crosby, David Freiberg, Barry Melton, John Cippolina, Robbie Stokes, Jorma Kaukonen, Jack Casady, Paul Kantner, maybe Merl Saunders.  Three or four or more guitarists playing together, two basses.  Most out of tune with piano and organ at times and worst by the end.  David Freiberg sometimes played organ, as well as bass.  Some thought Nicky Hopkins was there but I have no memory of him, and believe at the time he was with the Rolling Stones.  This day exemplifies the spirit of the music and comradeship of the times that I had experienced first in the summer of 1970, then in the summers of 1971,1972, and 1973.  And the spirit of the times when
"Seastones" was recorded." 

Fall, 1971 - Ned returns to Cambridge, MA.

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1972 
 
Summer, 1972 - Mickey's Barn Studio - Ned jams with Phil, Jerry, Mickey, John Cipollina, Barry Melton, David Crosby, and others.

Jerry and Ned play and jam together.  David Crosby and Ned play together (acoustic guitar, piano) at David's house.

xx-xx-72 - In the summer of 1972, "Seastones" recordings continue.  Sessions with Jerry, David Crosby, Grace Slick, David Freiberg, Spencer Dryden, Mickey, and Phil.  The first acoustic mix of part of "Seastones is done at Mickey's studio.

09-13-72  - The first "Seastones" partial mix (dated 09-13-72) is submitted by Jerry, Phil, and Ned to Clive Davis.  In a subsequent meeting they all attended at Davis's Columbia Records office in New York City, he rejected the album on the review and advice of other synthesizer recording artists at Columbia.  The back of the tape box lists the September 13, 1972 "Seastones" mix date and recording information.



 
Tape box for the September 13, 1972 mix of "Seastones"





09-16-72 - Grateful Dead at the Boston Music Hall, Boston, MA - During Set II, Ned played on "Dark Star" > "Brokedown Palace".  Ned played a Wurlitzer electric piano and Crybaby wah-wah when he joined the band on stage for "Dark Star", and after which he and his piano exited the stage.  This was the first and only time prior to 1974 that he sat in with Keith Godchaux playing acoustic piano.  https://archive.org/details/gd72-09-16.psbd.unknown.6683.sbeok.shnf 

Fall, 1972 - Ned returns to Cambridge, MA.

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1973

04-xx-73 - Ned moves to California.

04-xx-73 - Mickey's Barn Studio - first playing electric and electronic music together as a group; Ned, Jerry, Phil, and Mickey played all night.

xx-xx-73 - Ned and Phil played one night all night alone at Mickey's in quad - sometimes with their instruments playing themselves with feedback while Ned and Phil went into control room and then back to their instruments.

xx-xx-73 - Recording sessions continue on "Seastones".

xx-xx-73 - Mickey's Barn Studio - jams with Phil, Jerry, Mickey, John Cipollina, Barry Melton, and others.  Jerry and Ned play and jam together alone.  David Crosby and Ned play together (acoustic guitar, piano) at David's house.

xx-xx-73 - Recording (on 4 track, 2 track, and cassette tape) and practice sessions at Ned's apartment in Fairfax with Jerry, David Crosby, and Phil.  Some of these were recorded; they are presumed lost.

11-28-73 - Palace of Fine Arts, San Francisco, CA - Billed on the poster as "An Experiment in Quadraphonic Sound" with Jerry Garcia and Mickey Hart; however, Ned performed the entire concert (although not on stage), and Phil did the live quad mix.  The booking and publicity started before all had committed to the concert - this explains why there has been some confusion as to who played and how this related to "Seastones".  Included as part of this show was the first "Seastones" live/tape performance in quad.  This was a partial one, using pre-recorded "Seastones" tracks and the live musicians' performance, and some other pre-recorded tapes by Ned.  Ned played an Arp Odyssey for most of the show seated at the mix board centered in the audience with Phil next to him mixing in quad.  https://archive.org/details/gd73-11-28.sbd-seastones.finney.968.sbefail.shnf

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1974

xx-xx-74 - Recording (4 track and 2 track tape) and practice sessions at Ned's apartment in Fairfax with Jerry, David Crosby, and Phil.  Some of these were recorded; they are presumed lost.

xx-xx-74 - Recording sessions continue on "Seastones".

04-xx-74 - Grateful Dead album "From the Mars Hotel" sessions - Ned plays an Arp Odyssey synthesizer on "Unbroken Chain".  The album was recorded at the CBS Studios in San Francisco from March 30, 1974 to April 19, 1974.

1974 Summer Tour - At most of the concerts, Ned and Phil perform together ("Ned and Phil") during the set break between Set I and II.  Some of these "Ned and Phil" sets segue into the full Grateful Dead performing.  Some sets include only Jerry.  As yet not documented in the following listings are some "Ned and Phil" sets that included Jerry, but not the full Grateful Dead.  Some "Ned and Phil" sets were partial performances of "Seastones".  Ned plays a Fender Rhodes 88 electric piano, an Arp Odyssey synthesizer, and an Emu polyphonic analog synthesizer with computer control.


Ned's band ID badge that was used for the 1974 tours

In 1974, Ned began playing through the vocal system.  It was considered the best part of the entire Wall of Sound PA.  It had the second highest column of 15-inch bass speakers, second only to Phil.  There were 240 speakers total including the center cluster, a 4-way crossover, and 9600 watts of power provided by sixteen Macintosh 300 amps.  Ned could be as loud as a jet plane and actually had the capability of lifting the entire stage fully loaded by playing a burst of subsonic notes, which he did a couple of times.  When he held a note the speakers created a breeze!

However, there was a switch to select between his 4-channel quad feed and the vocal mic mix.  When band members were singing through the system, the vocal system switch was set to the vocal mics and Ned was switched just to on-stage monitors.  Sometimes the switch back to him was forgotten (for awhile), and sometimes 2 of the 4 channels of Ned's quad feed were lost in the vocal system input mix even when the switch was set to Ned.

Note from Ned:  Many of the "Ned and Phil" performances have missing audio channels - sometimes two of Ned's four quad live channels or the computer rhythm output, sometimes Phil's feed to Ned's synthesizer console for scored processing, and sometimes pre-recorded tapes (basic tracks for "Seastones", "L", others).  The pre-recorded tracks (effectively basic "audio scores") were an important formal component of the musical performance, providing a framework or background for improvising (and/or control and modulation signals).  Like Phil, Ned's instruments had quad 4 channel outputs, but often 2 channels were lost somewhere in the PA feed mix, which converted 4 channels into 2 for the vocal system output.

Note from Ned:  As parts of the "Seastones" open form composition, some of the Ned and Phil (and others) "Seastones" live performances (1973-1975) became "accreted moment forms" in the complete composition.

06-23-74 - Grateful Dead at the Jai-Alai Fronton, Miami, FL - During the set break between Set I and II, Ned and Phil perform the 'first time played' "Ned and Phil" set.  Ned plays on "Ned and Phil" > "jam" > "Ship of Fools", (Ned does not play during "Big River"), "Black Peter", "Around and Around", "Dark Star" jam > "Spanish Jam" > "U.S. Blues".  Ned's parents are in attendance in the audience and meet Jerry and Phil.  The "Dark Star Jam" excerpt > "Spanish Jam" > "U.S. Blues" appears on disc 2, track 6 of the "So Many Roads (1965-1995)" box set.  https://archive.org/details/gd1974-06-23.sdb.smith.116312.flac16

06-26-74 - Grateful Dead at the Providence Civic Center, Providence, RI - Ned plays on the "Ned and Phil" set.  https://archive.org/download/gd1974-06-26.akgd1000e.moore.berger.105919.flac24/gd74-06-26d2t01_vbr.mp3

06-28-74 - Grateful Dead at the Boston Garden, Boston, MA - Ned plays on the "Ned and Phil" set.  https://archive.org/download/gd1974-06-28.sonyecm99.moore.berger.106003.flac24/gd74-06-28d1t14_vbr.mp3

06-30-74 - Grateful Dead at the Springfield Civic Center Arena, Springfield, MA - Ned plays on the "Ned and Phil" set.  http://www.archive.org/download/gd1974-06-30.sbd.miller.96275.sbeok.flac16/gd74-06-30d2t04_vbr.mp3

07-04-74 - Grateful Dead at Titan Stadium, University of Wisconsin - Oshkosh, Oshkosh, WI - This scheduled concert, with a fireworks show, was ultimately cancelled, but not before the band, the equipment crew, and the four "Wall of Sound" trucks had arrived in town on July 1, 1974.  The concert was rescheduled for July 6, 1974, which also was eventually cancelled.  Ensconced in nineteen rooms and two suites at the Pioneer Inn, the entourage took full advantage of the unscheduled time off by relaxing at the pool, drag racing the trucks through the center of town at night and being chased by the police (Ned participated), and generally winding down from the rigors of touring before leaving on the 4th of July.

07-19-74 - Grateful Dead at the Selland Arena, Fresno, CA - Ned plays on the "Ned and Phil" set.  http://www.archive.org/download/gd1974-07-19.sbd.miller.32634.sbeok.flac16/gd74-07-19d2t02_vbr.mp3  The "Ned and Phil" set appears on the  "Dave's Picks Volume 17:  Selland Arena, Fresno, CA 7/19/74" album.

07-21-74 - Grateful Dead at the Hollywood Bowl, Hollywood, CA - Ned plays on the "Ned and Phil" set.  http://www.archive.org/download/gd1974-07-21.ecm22p.bertrando.motb0056.88979.sbeok.flac16/gd1974-07-21.motb.0056.d1t11_vbr.mp3

 

Jerry, Ned, and Bob at the Hollywood Bowl on July 21, 1974



Ned and Phil at the Hollywood Bowl on July 21, 1974  (photo by David Gans)

07-25-74 - Grateful Dead at the International Amphitheatre, Chicago, IL - Ned plays on the "Ned and Phil" set.  [add link]

07-27-74 - Grateful Dead at the Roanoke Civic Center, Roanoke, VA - Ned plays on the "Ned and Phil" set.  https://archive.org/download/gd1974-07-27.akgd200e.unk.sirmick.132282.sbeok.flac16/gd1974-07-27s2.mp3

07-29-74 - Grateful Dead at the Capital Center, Landover, MD - Ned plays on the "Ned and Phil" set.  [add link]

07-31-74 - Grateful Dead at Dillon Stadium, Hartford, CT - Before Set III, Ned plays on the "Ned and Phil" set.  http://archive.org/download/gd1974-07-31.115499.aud-anderson.bershaw-berger.flac16/gd74-07-31d3t01.mp3

Ned and Jerry at Dillon Stadium on July 31, 1974  (photo by Paul Kiley)



Ned at Dillon Stadium on July 31, 1974  (photo by James R. Anderson)

08-04-74 - Grateful Dead at the Civic Convention Hall Auditorium, Philadelphia, PA - Ned plays on the "Ned and Phil" set.  https://archive.org/download/gd1974-08-04.aud.moore.weiner.gdADT.9112.sbeok.shnf/gd74-08-04d2t03_vbr.mp3 

08-05-74 - Grateful Dead at the Civic Convention Hall Auditorium, Philadelphia, PA - Ned plays on the "Ned and Phil" set.  https://archive.org/download/gd74-08-05.aud.weiner.21294.sbeok.shnf/gd1974-08-05d2t04_vbr.mp3 

08-06-74 - Grateful Dead at Roosevelt Stadium, Jersey City, NJ - Ned plays on the "Ned and Phil" set.  https://archive.org/download/gd74-08-06.merin.weiner.gdADT.5914.sbefail.shnf/gd74-08-06d2t05_vbr.mp3 






 Ned setting up at Roosevelt Stadium on August 6, 1974

September 1974 Europe Tour

From Ned:

"More than a few years ago I received a DVD in the mail from Steve Brown. I was quite surprised that it contained Steve's Super 8mm movies he made during the 1974 Grateful Dead tour of Europe. He only asked that I not copy or share it publicly. However, recently he gave me permission for it to be viewed on Nedbase (and on the archived Nedbase on spiritcats.com.) but not for wider distribution. Steve retains copyright and ownership. With the exception of the "The Grateful Dead Movie", and a video snippet from the September 21, 1974 Paris concert, there are no other movies or videos in which I appear from those years.

I met Steve when he went to work for the newly formed Grateful Dead Records and Round Records in 1973. Steve had several roles including album recording sessions, production and promotion, live concert on-site promotion, and working on the "Mars Hotel" LP and "The Grateful Dead Movie". I remember Steve as a very nice, sincere, knowledgeable person who really cared about the band and the music, and truly helped make good things happen.

Steve's Super 8mm movies cover the 1974 Grateful Dead European tour. London's city life of the times and the Alexander Palace set up of the Wall of Sound (2:02), Munich and the Olympic Halle (4:26), band (5:37, me at 6:00 reading The Sunday Times) and family members getting on the bus and the bus ride from Munich through Luxembourg to Zurich, hanging out on the street in Geneva with Jerry, Parish, Hunter, Keith, Donna, baby Zion, Bob Matthews, and others, and then Phil, Steve, Dan Healy, and me on our drive through the high Alps and villages of Switzerland (7:25), into rural France (with castles) and on to Dijon (14:58) ending in Paris. 

Two additional notes come from Steve:

*It was silent 8mm so I added a soundtrack from that Summer's U.S. tour -- Springfield, MA 6-30-74.

**Most of it was filmed while in an altered state, thank you Bear.

So wonderful we all traveled together and that Steve was wise enough to capture the adventure, and the spirit of the times, on film."

The 18 minute long "Europe 1974 Grateful Dead Tour" movie by Steve Brown can viewed by going to Ned's website Spiritcats.com, navigating to the MUSIC page, and then scrolling down to the DOWNLOADS section, where there is a link to the movie and to other music

09-10-74 - Grateful Dead at the Alexandra Palace, London, England - Ned plays on "Ned and Phil" set.  [add link] 

09-11-74 - Grateful Dead at the Alexandra Palace, London, England - During Set II, Ned plays on "Ned and Phil" > "Space" > jam > "Space" > "Eyes of the World" > "Stronger Than Dirt" > "Space" > "Wharf Rat".  Ned plays a Fender Rhodes 88 electric piano and trades intro leads with Jerry.  Jerry was very happy, laughing at the end of the sequence, and gave Ned his guitar pick.  https://archive.org/details/gd1974-09-11.sbd.unknown.4647.shnf 

09-14-74 - Grateful Dead at the Olympiahalle, Muenchen, West Germany - Ned plays on the "Ned and Phil" set.  http://www.archive.org/download/gd1974-09-14.28353.sbeok.flac16/gd74-09-14d1t01_vbr.mp3 

09-18-74 - Grateful Dead at the Parc des Expositions, Dijon, France - At his afternoon soundcheck, Ned was joined by Phil, Bill Kreutzmann, Bob Weir, and Jerry.  http://spiritcats.com/gd_091874_nlagin_cro2_n90-nr_dn1_soundcheck.mp3  Ned plays on the "Ned and Phil" set.  http://www.archive.org/download/gd1974-09-18.sbd.miller.20675.shnf/gd74-09-18d2t02_vbr.mp3  The "Ned and Phil" set appears on disc 2, track 2 of the ninth show ("Parc des Expositions, Dijon, France - September 18, 1974") on the  "30 Trips Around The Sun:  The Definitive Story (1965-1995)" box set. 

09-20-74 - Grateful Dead at the Palais des Sports, Paris, France - Ned was scheduled to play the "Ned and Phil" set but arrived at the hall too late to play. 

09-21-74 - Grateful Dead at the Palais des Sports, Paris, France - Ned plays on "Ned and Phil" > "Playing in the Band" > "Drums" > "Playing in the Band"  https://archive.org/details/gd1974-09-21.131530.sbd.miller.flac16 .  Jerry asks Ned to stay and finish the set but he left the stage.  There is a black and white video of this concert showing parts of the "Ned and Phil" set and "Playing in the Band" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-G_mOM5LbQ 

The October 16, 17, 18, 19, and 20, 1974 Grateful Dead concerts at Winterland were filmed for "The Grateful Dead Movie".  Ned appears in the DVD release of "The Grateful Dead Movie".  There is additional footage of Ned playing in the Grateful Dead film archives. 





Jerry, Ned, Bob, Phil, and Bill at Winterland in October, 1974



Jerry, Ned, Bob, Bill, and Phil at Winterland in October, 1974

10-16-74 - Grateful Dead at the Winterland Arena, San Francisco, CA - During Set II, Ned plays on  "Ned and Phil" > "Space" jam > "Wharf Rat" > "Space" > "Eyes of the World".  https://archive.org/details/gd1974-10-16.fob.sonyecm250.falenga.motb-0131.107036.flac16 

10-17-74 - Grateful Dead at the Winterland Arena, San Francisco, CA - Ned plays on the "Ned and Phil" set that starts Set II.  http://ia600502.us.archive.org/4/items/gd1974-10-17.sbd.smith.gems.99031.flac16/gd1974.10.17.GEMS.d2t04_vbr.mp3 

10-18-74 - Grateful Dead at the Winterland Arena, San Francisco, CA - Ned plays during the first half of Set II:  "Ned and Phil" > jam > "Dark Star" > "Morning Dew".  https://archive.org/details/gd1974-10-18.111459.gems.BOSWELL-SMITH.flac24 

10-19-74 - Grateful Dead at the Winterland Arena, San Francisco, CA - Ned plays on "Ned and Phil" set.  He plays alone solo synthesizer and rhythm synth for the first few minutes.  http://archive.org/download/gd1974-10-19.sbd.boswell-smith.116341.flac24/gd1974-10-19s2t01.mp3 

10-20-74 - Grateful Dead at the Winterland Arena, San Francisco, CA - Ned plays on "Ned and Phil" set.  During Set II, Ned plays on "Playing in the Band" > "Drums" > "Not Fade Away" > "Drums" > "The Other One" > "Wharf Rat" > "Playing in the Band".  For Set III, Ned's electric piano is left on stage right and he plays only some tunes - the archive of "The Grateful Dead Movie" film footage can verify which ones.  Ned recalls playing on "Eyes of the World" > (partially on "Slipknot" > "Stella Blue", and "Sugar Magnolia"), and Encores 1 and 2:  "Johnny B. Goode" > Mississippi Half Step Uptown Toodeloo" > "And We Bid You Goodnight".  https://archive.org/details/gd1974-10-20.sbd.smith-lee.GEMS.97193.flac16 

Ned, Bob, Jerry, and Phil at Winterland on October 20, 1974 (photo by Bill Magee)


Ned, Phil, Bob, and Jerry at Winterland on October 20, 1974 (photo by Bill Magee)


Jerry, Ned, Phil, and Bob at Winterland on October 20, 1974 (photo by Bill Magee)

Note from Ned:

My Fender Rhodes 88 electric piano cover is off, exposing the piano's "tines", which vibrate when struck by each piano key hammer mechanism, and their associated pickups, as can be seen in photos from Winterland October 1974, and in the Paris video from 09-21-74. I almost always played it this way allowing me to play the electric piano's individual "tines" (like a "prepared piano"), and to facilitate feedback with my pre-amp monitor setup immediately behind me, and to sometimes create feedback with Jerry's guitar pickups when he played close to me (similar to what we did together with my clavichord on 02-18-71). 

xx-xx-74 - Recording and work sessions for "Seastones" continued.

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1975

For 1975, only the Grateful Dead rehearsals that exist on recordings are listed.  Other studio sessions that are undocumented or were not recorded are not listed.  Ned's studio rehearsals and jamming alone with Jerry, David Crosby, and Phil are not listed and the recordings were either non-existent or are now lost.  Ned was present for all the Grateful Dead "Blues For Allah" sessions until 06-17-75.

02-xx-75 - Round Records releases three samplers, one of which has "Sea Stones", the basic structure of this segment from "Seastones".



Round Records sampler with "Sea Stones" excerpt from "Seastones"




02-xx-75 to 06-xx-75 - Ned records other "Seastones" compositions, and "Seastones" electronic jams at Bob Weir's studio in Mill Valley, CA.  Some of these were recorded but are now presumed lost.  Recording (on 4 track and 2 track tape) and practice sessions were held at Ned's apartment in Fairfax with Jerry, David Crosby, and Phil.  Some of these were recorded; they are presumed lost.

02-19-75 - Grateful Dead rehearsal at the Bob Weir studio in Mill Valley, CA - Ned plays on "Crazy Fingers" and other songs.  Part of this session can be heard after the 33:00 mark on Grateful Dead Hour No. 359:  http://rhino.edgeboss.net/qtime/rhino/gdead/gdhour/gdh359_podcast.mov?timestamp=1417185039&ttl=600&iprange=0.0.0.0/0&cryptosignature=9A5B71A72B17CCB35DE3A8E0FC13C1C44F222B6C 

02-27-75 - Grateful Dead rehearsal at the Bob Weir studio in Mill Valley, CA - Ned plays on "Groove #1", "Groove #2", "A To E Flat Jam", and "Proto 18 Proper".  These appear as tracks 8, 9, 11, and 12 on the remastered "Blues For Allah" album that is disc 3 of the "Beyond Description (1973–1989)" box set.  These also appear as tracks 8, 9, 11, and 12 on the remastered "Blues For Allah" album. 

02-28-75 - Grateful Dead rehearsal at the Bob Weir studio in Mill Valley, CA - Ned plays on "Distorto" ("Crazy Fingers" jam), "Stronger Than Dirt" jams, "Girl From Ipanema" jam, "They Love Each Other" jams, and "The Music Never Stopped" jams.  "Distorto" appears as track 10 on the remastered "Blues For Allah" album that is disc 3 of the "Beyond Description (1973–1989)" box set.  It also appears as track 10 on the remastered "Blues For Allah" album.  These sessions exist in trading circles on two CDs.  http://www.archive.org/details/gd1975-02-28.sbd.smith.93779.sbeok.flac16  

03-05-75 - Grateful Dead rehearsal at the Bob Weir studio in Mill Valley, CA - Ned plays on "Crazy Fingers" and other songs.  Part of this session can be heard after the 33:00 mark on Grateful Dead Hour No. 359:  http://rhino.edgeboss.net/qtime/rhino/gdead/gdhour/gdh359_podcast.mov?timestamp=1417185039&ttl=600&iprange=0.0.0.0/0&cryptosignature=9A5B71A72B17CCB35DE3A8E0FC13C1C44F222B6C 

03-17-75 - Scheduled Grateful Dead partial rehearsal, then "Seastones" recording session at Bob Weir's studio in Mill Valley, CA - This studio session includes Ned's "Birthday Jam" and a "Seastones" session with David Crosby.  Ned and the group play on the David Crosby tunes "Low Down Payment" and "Homeward Through the Haze".  They jam on Ned's tunes for a second (i.e., to be released later) "Seastones" album entitled "Make a Cat Laugh":  "Running Home", "No Name", and "A Lost Soul".  These sessions exist in trading circles on three CDs.  https://archive.org/details/gd75-03-17.sbd.vernon.10111.sbeok.shnf 

03-xx-75 - Grateful Dead rehearsal at the Bob Weir studio in Mill Valley, CA - Ned plays with the Grateful Dead on these "Blues for Allah" rehearsals.  These sessions exist in trading circles on three CDs.  https://archive.org/details/gd1975-06-07.bluesruffs.sbd.smith.94427.sbeok.flac16 

03-xx-75 - Jerry Garcia and Friends rehearsal at the Bob Weir studio in Mill Valley, CA - Ned plays on the SNACK practice which consists of "Blues For Allah" material.  Merl Saunders and David Crosby play at this session.  These sessions exist in trading circles on two CDs.  https://archive.org/details/gd1975-06-07.bluesruffs.sbd.smith.94427.sbeok.flac16 

03-21-75 - Jerry Garcia and Friends rehearsal at Bob Weir studio in Mill Valley, CA - Ned with Merl Saunders and David Crosby and the Grateful Dead play "Stronger Than Dirt" and "Blues For Allah".  https://archive.org/details/gd1975-03-23.sbd.snack.18525.flac16 and http://www.archive.org/details/gd75-03-21.sbd.backus.14288.sbeok.shnf 

03-23-75 - Jerry Garcia and Friends at the SF SNACK concert, Kezar Stadium, San Francisco, CA - Ned plays on the complete set - the "Blues For Allah" suite and the "Johnny B. Goode" encore.  https://archive.org/details/gd1975-03-23.sbd.miller.110126.flac16 

Jerry, Ned, and Bob at Kezar Stadium on March 23, 1975  (photo by Peter Simon)

Jerry, Bob, Phil, and Ned at Kezar Stadium on March 23, 1975  (photo by Peter Simon)

 
03-26-75 - Grateful Dead rehearsal at the Bob Weir studio in Mill Valley, CA - At this rehearsal for "Blues For Allah", Ned plays on "Lazy Lightning", "Slipknot", and "Blues For Allah", and on "Proto 18 Proper" ( http://rhino.edgeboss.net/download/rhino/gdead/tapers/april23/gd_proto_18_3_26_75.mp3 ).  http://www.archive.org/details/gd75-03-26.sbd.backus.14289.sbeok.shnf 

04-01-75 - The "Seastones" album (Round RX 106) is released.

 
"Seastones" LP cover

 

04-02-75 - Grateful Dead rehearsal at the Bob Weir studio in Mill Valley, CA - Ned plays on "The Walk", "Blue Noodle Soup", "Staccato" jam, "Lazy Lightning", "Crazy Fingers", "The Music Never Stopped", and "Help on the Way".  https://archive.org/details/gd75-04-02.sbd.backus.14290.sbeok.shnf 

04-17-75 - Grateful Dead partial rehearsal at the Bob Weir studio in Mill Valley, CA - Ned plays on "C.C. Rider", multiple takes of "Stronger Than Dirt", "The Music Never Stopped", and "Tico Tico".  The group also performs Ned's unnamed tunes and "Running Home", "No Name", and "A Lost Soul" for the later "Seastones" (i.e., "Make A Cat Laugh") album, and songs that were also played on the 03-17-75 "Birthday Jam" session.  David Crosby and John Cipollina play with the group.  https://archive.org/details/gd1975-04-17.122863.flacf and http://www.archive.org/details/gd75-04-17.sbd.backus.14291.sbeok.shnf and http://archive.org/details/gd1975-04-17.122863.flacf 

04-18-75 - Grateful Dead rehearsal at the Bob Weir studio in Mill Valley, CA - Ned plays in the group rehearsal, which is then followed by a "Seastones" playing and recording session.

04-xx-75 - Grateful Dead rehearsal at the Bob Weir studio in Mill Valley, CA - Ned plays songs with David Crosby that will be used for "Seastones", utilizing synthesizer, voice, and Echoplex.

04-29-75 - Grateful Dead rehearsal at the Bob Weir studio in Mill Valley, CA - Ned plays on "Swing Warm Ups" ( http://rhino.edgeboss.net/download/rhino/gdead/tapers/april23/gd_swingwarmups_4_29_75.mp3 ) and other jams but not on the "E-A-C" jam.

05-07-75 - Grateful Dead rehearsal at the Bob Weir studio in Mill Valley, CA - Ned with David Crosby and the Grateful Dead play "King Solomon's Marbles" (two takes of that were played on Grateful Dead Hour No. 344).

06-03-75 - Grateful Dead rehearsal at the Bob Weir studio in Mill Valley, CA - Ned plays on multiple takes of "Stronger Than Dirt".  These sessions exist in trading circles on one CD.  http://www.archive.org/details/gd75-06-05.sbd.hanno.21936.sbeok.shnf and https://archive.org/details/gd1975-06-07.bluesruffs.sbd.smith.94427.sbeok.flac16 

06-03-75 - Grateful Dead rehearsal at the Bob Weir studio in Mill Valley, CA - Ned plays on "Crazy Fingers".  A "Seastones" playing and recording session followed this.  http://www.archive.org/details/gd75-06-05.sbd.hanno.21936.sbeok.shnf and https://archive.org/details/gd1975-06-07.bluesruffs.sbd.smith.94427.sbeok.flac16 

06-04-75 - Grateful Dead rehearsal at the Bob Weir studio in Mill Valley, CA - Ned plays on "Franklin's Tower" and "Stronger Than Dirt".  This was followed by a "Seastones" rehearsal.  http://www.archive.org/details/gd75-06-05.sbd.hanno.21936.sbeok.shnf 

06-05-75 - Grateful Dead rehearsal at the Bob Weir studio in Mill Valley, CA - Ned plays on the jam > "Help On The Way" > "Slipknot".  This was followed by a "Seastones" rehearsal.  http://www.archive.org/details/gd75-06-05.sbd.hanno.21936.sbeok.shnf and https://archive.org/details/gd1975-06-07.bluesruffs.sbd.smith.94427.sbeok.flac16 

06-06-75 - Angelico Hall, Dominican College, San Rafael, CA - Ned plays "Seastones" and other compositions with Phil, Mickey, David Crosby, and Jerry.  These sessions exist in trading circles on three CDs.  http://www.archive.org/details/gd73-11-28.sbd-seastones.finney.968.sbefail.shnf



Poster for the June 6, 1975 "Seastones" concert




06-xx-75 - rehearsal at the Bob Weir studio in Mill Valley, CA - Ned plays with Jerry, mostly duos.  Ned plays the Fender Rhodes 88 electric piano.  https://archive.org/details/gd1975-06-07.bluesruffs.sbd.smith.94427.sbeok.flac16 

06-17-75 - Jerry Garcia and Friends at the Winterland Arena, San Francisco, CA - This concert was originally billed as "Jerry Garcia and Friends"; later listings refer to it as the Grateful Dead.  Ned was included in the original billing and was to play the entire concert; he attended set up and sound check, but decided not to play.

 

"Seastones" at #19 on the Billboard "FM Action" chart (courtesy of Jesse Jarnow)


09-xx-75 - "Seastones" rehearsals for the upcoming concert. 

09-19-75 - Palace of Fine Arts Theater, San Francisco, CA - Ned performs "Seastones" and other compositions with Phil, Jerry, and David Crosby.

Note from Ned:  The recording indicates that Jerry was present and accounted for in at least in the first part of this concert.  He had to leave this concert early for a Jerry Garcia Band concert in Sacramento.

11-xx-75 - "Seastones" rehearsals for the upcoming concert.

11-15-75 - Angelico Hall, Dominican College, San Rafael, CA - Ned performs "Seastones" and other compositions with Phil.  Whether Jerry, David Crosby, and Mickey played is being researched.


Poster for the November 15, 1975 "Seastones" concert



11-22-75 - La Paloma Theatre, 471 First Street, Encinitas, CA - Ned and Phil perform "Seastones" and other compositions.  They perform early and late shows.  This was the last public performance by Ned.  The early show exists in trading circles on one CD.  https://archive.org/details/paf1975-11-22.early.124127.aud.flac16 

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43 comments:

  1. This is fantastic. All the confusing details and part-rumors, sorted out and all properly organized in one place. And it's great to get the confusing issue resolved of why Ned could sometimes be heard and sometimes not. It's also fascinating to see how much he played with members of the Grateful Dead outside of any formal context, just jamming with them in rehearsal studios or homes.

    Having been fortunate to witness a Phil and Ned performance, on October 17, 1974, at Winterland, I thought I would mention how strange actually seeing them play really was. The Deadhead network was far less developed in those days, what with there being no internet and all, so I suspect that when I saw the Dead that night (the second night of the so-called "Last Five Nights") relatively few people had any idea about Phil and Ned. At earlier shows, all around the country and Europe, fans would have had even less of an idea what was going on. The Seastones album would not come out for several more months.

    After the first set ended on October 17, there was the usual milling around. I can't recall if Phil came out before the lights went down or after, but there was the usual whooping. I think everyone expected Jerry and the boys to follow him out there. Instead, there was just Phil and a not-Keith playing an electric piano. Phil made some weird low noises, and I realized that other sounds were coming from the not-Keith guy. At first I wondered if they were introing a song, but after a while I realized it wasn't like that.

    No announcer said anything like "ladies and gentlemen, Phil Lesh and Ned Lagin," nor was Ned's name even mentioned at the concert (although I can hardly think of anything less appropriate than some FM dj saying "let's put our hands together and give it up for Phil and Ned!"). I'm fairly certain that I only found out Ned's name because SF Chronicle writer Joel Selvin reviewed the Wednesday show (Oct 16) and the review appeared in the Friday (Oct 18) paper. I thought, "oh, the guy who played on 'Candyman.'"

    Since the Dead played five nights at Winterland, at each show there must have been more people who'd been to a previous show, heard about it, or read Selvin's review. But the night I went it was an unexpected and strange experience that was not explained from the stage. In most cities, where the band played at most two and usually just one night, it must have been like that, a mysterious, unexplained interlude with Phil and a not-Keith who was never introduced.

    Needless to say, nothing like that ever happened again. Sic transit gloria psychedelia, as the Romans used to say.

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  2. Excellent work! This adds a lot to the available performance listings - some of these were previously unknown, and many new details included.

    A piano can faintly be heard in the 4/7/71 post-drums jam, but it's difficult to make out much. Unfortunately the jam cuts after only two minutes, so we don't know how long it continued before they went into Not Fade Away. It's quite possible this show was multitracked for the live album, though, so a complete copy of the jam might be in the Vault. This is an unusually short show, possibly all just one set - at the end Jerry apologizes that they can't play more due to the curfew (which you also noted on 4/8/71).
    I couldn't tell how much of the rest of the show Ned might play in.

    The summer '71 "Day in the Country" radio broadcast from Mickey Hart's ranch is news to me; you have to wonder how many of these ranch sessions are still in Hart's collection. Robbie Stokes (of the Devil's Kitchen band, kind of the "house band" at the Family Dog) once recalled, "I played guitar on a live radio broadcast with David Crosby, Mickey Hart, Jerry Garcia, John Cippolina and Phil Lesh." (I'd thought this might refer to the 8/21/71 jams, but now it sounds like maybe he was a part of the "Day in the Country" broadcast.)

    Good to hear that the 9/18/74 soundcheck jam with Ned was taped and still exists - that part of the soundcheck doesn't circulate. I find these late-'74 full-band jams with Ned fascinating; and clearly Garcia appreciated them as well - he said in a November '74 interview, "When we went to Europe this last time we got into some new directions in improvisation which have been the opening of new, fertile ground."

    A couple suggestions - you might want to go through and remove the "[add link]" notes. Also, some of the '74 Ned & Phil sets are not available on circulating tapes, and you may want to specifically note those as unavailable.

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  3. xx-xx-71 - "A Day In The Country"

    Gaaahhhhhhhhh

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  4. 11/28/73 was identified in the paper as a Benefit for 3HO North Yoga.

    preview: "Garcia to Play In Yoga Benefit," Oakland Tribune, November 21, 1973, p. 26.

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    1. http://newspaperarchive.com/us/california/oakland/oakland-tribune/1973/11-21/page-25 article is in the lower left corner:

      Garcia to Play In Yoga Benefit

      Jerry Garcia awd Mickey Hart will perform in a benefit concert for 3HO North next Wednesday at 7 p.m. the Palace of Fine Arts Theatre, 3301 Lyon St., San Francisco. The Sat Nam Singers and Ajari and the Mantric Sun Band will be on the same program.

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  5. 3/26/75: Herb Caen reports that they changed the name of the song (or maybe project) from "Blues For Faisal" to "Blues For Allah".

    Caen, Herb. 1975. Follow the Bouncing Dots. San Francisco Chronicle, March 28, 1975, p. 17.

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  6. "04-29-75 - Grateful Dead rehearsal at the Bob Weir studio in Mill Valley, CA - Ned plays on "Swing Warm Ups" and other jams but not on the "E-A-C" jam."

    Was Garcia present at this session?

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  7. Garcia is certainly on the tape:
    http://www.dead.net/features/tapers-section/april-23-april-29-2007
    Two keyboards are definitely present on "Swing Warmups."

    However, there is a Blues for Allah session where Garcia doesn't appear to be present - the session dated 4/17/75 on the Archive. According to the notes, John Cipollina, Bob Weir, Phil Lesh, Ned Lagin, David Crosby & Bill Kreutzmann are listed as playing - so, no Garcia or Keith.
    (I think this session is also duplicated on our 3/17/75 tape, everything from track 11 to the end; almost all of which is clearly just Weir & Crosby on guitars. Possibly there's a date mixup. In any case, Ned's tapes seem to be more complete than what we have, since several of his songs are listed here on both 3/17 and 4/17 which are not apparent on our tapes.)

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  8. At the 3/14/74 Grateful Dead Meeting:
    Phil and Ned would like to play during GD breaks. Dave (Parker?) said the cost of one extra person is 5k without hotels. It was decided Ned wouldn't be going out on the May tour (six shows) and when would be discussed later.[1]

    1.)^Grateful Dead Meeting Notes, 1974-03-14, MS 332, Ser. 3, Box 2:9, GDR: Show Files: Summer east Coast Tours, #1-2-Ticket requests, comp requests, gig contact lists, correspondence, Grateful Dead Archives, Special Collections, McHenry Library, UC Santa Cruz, CA.

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    1. Fascinating... So they were planning it a few months in advance, and Phil & Ned's debut was delayed for economic reasons!

      There must be so much information in the GD Meeting notes over the years that has never been made public... I suspect our understanding of crucial years like '74-76 is extremely limited as a result.

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    2. You are absolutely right. Ironically, these hippies appear to have met like clockwork in official formation.

      Why would 1 additional person cost $5k, without hotels?

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    3. "Why would 1 additional person cost $5k, without hotels?"

      Presumably refers to the cost of taking the person on the particular tour in question, dealing with their equipment set-up, transportation, food (but not including lodging).

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  9. you can read all about the albums - and much, much more - in 'the compleat grateful dead discography' http://tcgdd.freeyellow.com

    I-) ihor

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  10. There is an entry on Gans GDHour #344 that may contain Ned under a date not listed here...

    It is labeled 5/7/75 Rehearsal with Crosby (2 takes of King Solomons Marbles), it sure sounds like there are two keyboards (one in each channel)

    Have had no luck finding more about this session, perhaps it now circulates under a different date?

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    1. It currently has a couple seeds at Lossless Legs if you want to jump on the torrent.

      http://shnflac.net/details.php?id=3be94fe1a2d310d02e2f20e92eccf1b3f506030f

      or i could try to get the two 5/7/75 tracks uploaded somewhere if youd prefer

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    2. thanks, jerme, for the info. i have been able to get gdh 344 and i will update nedbase.

      I-) ihor

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    3. i have to extend a special 'thank you!' to david gans and steve silberman for the 05-07-75 sessions and for incentivising me to keep looking, and finding, the 02-19-75 and 03-05-75 sessions.

      I-) ihor

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    4. fyi...


      the 05-07-75 session material appears on gratetful dead hour no. 344 and can be found at http://www.shnflac.net/details.php?id=3be94fe1a2d310d02e2f20e92eccf1b3f506030f

      the 02-19-75 and 03-05-75 session material appears on grateful dead hour no. 359 and can be found at
      http://www.shnflac.net/details.php?id=030659d541770b771d079c5ab519943abbe20a03

      I-) ihor

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  11. This is the most wonderful thing I have ever seen. Thank you.

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  12. Very interesting and extends my knowledge of Ned's involvement with the Dead immensely. Thank you!

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  13. A new audience source of 7-27-74 Roanoke posted to DIME today includes a 12:24 Seastones excerpt.

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  14. I was just going to mention that too. I wonder if it really is from that show!

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  15. i have to add a special 'thanks!' to jesse jarnow for asking about the 04-29-75 sessions.

    let me also acknowledge the enthusiastic and continued support of george m. prescott jr. - thank you!

    I-) ihor

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  16. Thank you for this very informative site especially for an under-represented but very interesting topic. Many of us have been wondering if Ned was at 6-16-74 Des Moines, partly available on Road Trips 2.3, where, especially in “Playing in the Band” you hear very Ned-like, or certainly un-Keith-like synth sounds. There does not seem to be any definitive evidence that Ned played the show, or if his gear was there and Keith was using it; but there are some witness accounts scattered across the internet that go as far as saying Ned played Seastones that day; I was wondering if you had any opinion or information regarding that show.

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    1. at the june 16, 1974 show, keith godchaux is playing keyboards. he switches from acoustic piano to electric piano during EOTWorld and stays with that for the rest of the 06-16-74 concert. there may be a couple of combined reasons why he sounds the way he does. first, there may be a bad cable or connector. second, keith may be trying out some other equipment that he normally would not be using, possibly an effects pedal or some VCOs that he was asked to play with. he normally would not have used those on his own.

      photos of the stage from that concert do not show ned's three keyboards set up anywhere on stage, nor are any of ned's equipment cases, etc. seen anywhere.

      I-) ihor

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  17. here is a pic of Ned Lagin playing with the Dead 70-11-21 Boston !!
    http://credo.library.umass.edu/view/zoom/muph057-b004-sl524-i017
    ruppi43

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    1. thanks, ruppi43 - great find.

      that is ned (back to camera) playing the electric piano at the 11-21-70 concert. there are six of those photos:

      http://credo.library.umass.edu/view/full/muph057-b004-sl524-i013
      http://credo.library.umass.edu/view/full/muph057-b004-sl524-i014
      http://credo.library.umass.edu/view/full/muph057-b004-sl524-i015
      http://credo.library.umass.edu/view/full/muph057-b004-sl524-i016
      http://credo.library.umass.edu/view/full/muph057-b004-sl524-i017
      http://credo.library.umass.edu/view/full/muph057-b004-sl524-i018

      I-) ihor

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  18. I'm confused. This guy travelled the country with the Dead to play 20 min. of music a night?

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    1. the 'ned and phil' sets only sometimes included music from 'seastones', the composition. other compositions of ned's were used for frameworks or 'scores' for improvisation. these were manifested in sheet music, notes, synthesizer patches, and/or pre-recorded tapes played with performances. some people call the 'group' with jerry, mickey, and david crosby as 'seastones'. some people called the 'ned and phil' sets sets as 'seastones' but they were not. some of the 'ned and phil' sets included jerry, whether or not they led into ned performing with the full band. band issues determined what happened when at particular shows, but ned's fender rhodes 88 was always on stage for both electronic music and possible transitions to the full GD. the very first 'ned and phil' in miami on 06-23-74 was like that, leading through a couple of jams and 'dark star'.

      take a listen to the 06-23-74, 09-11-74, 09-21-74, and the october 1974 concerts for some great exemplars of ned playing with phil, with jerry, and with the band. you can read through the '1974' entries up above for links to that music.

      I-) ihor

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    2. Wow I can actually hear him playing on the "Eyes" from 9/11/74. Thank you.

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  19. Did Jerry and Ned play with Crosby on board his Mayan sailboat in 1971-72? I read it somewhere and now can not find it.

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    1. From Ned:

      I played with David (Crosby) at his home in Mill Valley, at Mickey's, at Bob's, in my Fairfax one bedroom apartment, and at Wally Heider's studio in San Francisco (1970), but not on his boat. We also hung out when we both were staying at Chateau Marmot in Los Angeles. I was there to finish "Seastones".

      I made a couple of visits alone and with Phil to Sausalito when David and the "Mayan" (his sail boat) was docked there (we had lunch once). There was no piano or other keyboard on the boat, so there was no possibility of playing together. But once David played and sang some tunes for me on the boat.

      When, with Jerry and Phil, I visited Grace (Slick) and Paul (Kantner) at their house right on Stinson Beach, David sailed in on his boat and moored just offshore in Bolinas Bay.

      I always loved David's song "The Lee Shore". It deeply resonated with me because I grew up with family boats, first on Long Island Sound, later on Long Island's south shore and far from land on the Atlantic Ocean all the way out to the Gulf Stream, and in the Florida Keys. On fishing boats, many days and nights. Fishing and swimming around and under water.

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  20. hi!

    does anyone know what the timings are for the different movements of Seastones? i tried to break it down once based on transitions in the music, and came up short. thanks!!

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    1. Ned is investigating this, and this is hours of work to listen and figure out.

      Timings vary for different versions/releases. The CD times are known to be different than the LP and should be viewed as standing as they do, not as the canonic versions of "Seastones", and not to be made to be equal. The new upcoming "Seastones" CDs release track times are listed in the booklet (80 tracks) and do constitute the exact times as composed for each "Seastones" moment-form.

      In the meantime, if you have come up with your own timings for the "Seastones" CD, feel free to share them here.

      I-) ihor

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    2. golly! 1) a new seastones cd? 2) the ryko cd is a different mix/assembly of the material than the record? verrry interesting! more info?

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    3. These are the track timings that I came up with for the Rykodisc RCD 40193 CD version of "Seastones":

      The December 1975 Version
      1. I 5:23
      2. II 1:22
      3. III 0:52
      4. IV 11:10
      5. V 3:36
      6. VI 8:52
      The Original February 1975 Version
      7. I 3:36
      8. II (Vocals) 4:05
      9. III A 4:38
      10. III B 5:38
      11. IV A (Vocals) 0:19
      12. IV B (Vocals) 0:18
      13. V B 4:47
      14. VI (Vocals) 5:41
      15. VII 13:42

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  21. Ned has an official website Spiritcats.com where he writes extensively about his photography, art, and music, and, has several galleries of wonderful images to explore.

    I-) ihor

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  22. Hello Ned,

    Nedbase does not list you performing with the Grateful Dead on 6/16/74 at the Des Moines State Fair. It is known that there was no Seastones performance on this date. However, there are some eyewitness accounts (at least one on dead.net) stating that you played some keys at this show. And there is a discussion currently on dead.net (on the Dave's Picks 19 discussion board) about this. Many folks agree that the keys being played on Big River, for instance, does not sound like Keith Godchaux' playing at all. I was wondering if you could shed some light on this? Perhaps, if you don't have records beyond what is on Nedbase for this kind of thing, maybe you could listen to the Big River played during that show on Archive.org and see if you think that is you playing keyboards? If you'd rather not, I understand. Thank you very much for taking the time to read this. And best of look with the new Seastones project. I'm looking forward to that. :)

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      Ned was emailed about the 06-16-74 Des Moines concert, and was sent recordings. Here is his response:

      Thanks for the Des Moines CDs. I have listened to Big River and Playing in the Band.

      I have no memory of the Des Moines gig at all, and when I don't remember or just unsure of some date I don't think it should be included in Nedbase, or only to be mentioned there as being researched. I do not know how to respond to someone who saw me there playing. It is possible I have no memory but not at all likely. I do not remember exactly my tour travel plans, but we planned to start the Ned and Phil sets (and segue into Jerry and the GD) first in Miami, and not in the earlier cities.

      The Big River is not me. Could be Keith on some other new keyboard he was trying out, and perhaps with an organ kind of touch, much different from a piano, and so if it's Keith he might sound different. Or Keith using some new effects pedal or setup?

      At the beginning of Playing in the Band there is a buzz coming in rhythm with the tune. It occurs during the first verse singing, especially apparent when Donna is singing too. Could be a noise coming from an open faulty mic overloading picking up stage playing, or a bad cable, or an impedance mismatch for someone's audio feed (an added new keyboard?), or a blown preamp or amp? Also it occurs during singing which means it's not my setup because I always played through the vocal system, and when there was singing I would be switched out of the PA and could only be heard on stage where I had my own nearby monitors.

      Later in the jam there is a synth. but I would not use a synthesizer to play on Playing in the Band, at least not that way - I would not think it appropriate, having played it several times before and since (including when in 1970 in protoform it was called the Main Ten and I first played organ, and otherwise later after 1970 when I played it on electric piano). Also, whoever it was seemed to be not familiar with the settings on the synth or keyboard and was trying things out to find a patch/sound that worked, and maybe did not know it was going out initially through the PA. Could be Keith trying out something new?

      Sometimes during the middle and later jam it sounds like there are two keyboards (or two players?) on Playing in the Band, sometimes only one, and the sound of the second one is like mine and much like my touch/sound/style, different from Keith's usual sound (perhaps I had started influencing Keith in certain contexts?). But it's generally louder than how I was most times placed in the PA mix (being the sixth player in the mix) which argues strongly for it being Keith. I know of no sit-ins by any others during that tour except those by me, and no mention of others ever since.

      I listened to the beginning of the next tune (Tennessee Jed) and it has some noise sweeps and other synth sounds on it as well during singing. Cannot be my set up. With all the PA inputs used when there is singing it has to be part of the keyboard setup output. And sounds I would, of course, never make on that tune.

      By the way, getting my equipment out of the tour big-rig trucks for someone else to play would be very difficult because it was all packed deep in, to be unloaded first in Miami. Also, the synth does not sound like my Arp Odyssey, nor my Eu (which only could be setup by me).

      My opinion in summary is that, having no memory of the day and there being certain technical facts, it is not me in Des Moines, and it should not be credited to me in Nedbase.

      Thanks to all for their interest!

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  23. I asked Ned why the cover of his electric piano is off when it is on stage being played. Here is his response:

    I have been asked by several people why my Fender Rhodes 88 electric piano cover is off, exposing the piano's "tines", which vibrate when struck by each piano key hammer mechanism, and their associated pickups, as can be seen in photos from Winterland October 1974 on Nedbase, and in the Paris video from 09-21-74. I almost always played it this way allowing me to play the electric piano's individual "tines" (like a "prepared piano"), and to facilitate feedback with my pre-amp monitor setup immediately behind me, and to sometimes create feedback with Jerry's guitar pickups when he played close to me (similar to what we did together with my clavichord on 02-18-71).

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  24. Perhaps this is a complicated question, but how come Ned all the sudden stopped playing/jamming with the Dead and basically exited that universe altogether?

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    1. Rather, perhaps it's a question with a complicated answer...

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    2. Thanks for the question. While there is some information in earlier interviews, Ned and I have talked in the past about adding, at the end of the NedBase chronology, some information about his leaving the Grateful Dead family and music. I will email Ned and ask him.

      Hopefully in the next week or so, when I get something added to NedBase, I will email you and let you know.

      I-) ihor

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